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  What did JW believe when JC picked them up in 1919?

  by Albert Einstein in

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  we had a discussion today with my jw wife:.

  wife: fd slave is the the only channel to god and you must accept it and obbey them!.

  albert: why do you say they are?.

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  We had a discussion today with my JW wife:

  wife: FD slave is the the only channel to God and you must accept it and obbey them!

  Albert: Why do you say they are?

  wife: ???? well ... they preach the truth...

  Albert: OK, I will help you - you should say "It is because they were chosen by JC in 1919"

  wife: Yes, you are right, thats the reason!

  Albert: OK, so what they were teaching when they were supposedly chosen? Lets discuss that....

  wife: well, we will discuss it later, now our son is listening...

  SO GUYS, WHAT DID WTBS TEACH WHEN THEY WERE SUPPOSEDLY CHOSEN... AND TODAY COULD BE A REASON FOR DF:

  I will start:

  God uses pyramids to comunicate with us

  Its OK to go to war

  No political neutralïty necessary

  Its OK to worship Jesus

  Its OK to celebrate birthdays

  Its OK to celebrate christmass

  No regular preaching by all memebrs

  Everybody goes to heaven

  End will come in 1925

  Your points?

  Albert
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  WHAT WAS YOUR AHA! MOMENT THATIT WAS TIME TO EXIT THE BORG?

  by freewilly01 in

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  i had a huge light bulb on moment as i wasy in therapy dealing with a nasty anxiety disorder for many years and having a huge trigger in my life finally silenced.

  it was almost the last thing that i thought i would end up doing expecially if you asked my wife and myself even a year before our decision to " live " thats how i view it not decision to leave...........it was a decision to live.. .

  my therapist psychiatrist asked me who are you?

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  Several years ago, there was a JW calendar with pictures of JW history ... on one page there was Rutherford and witnesses with sandwich boards saying in english: "MILLIONS NOW LIVING WILL NEVER DIE!" text to the picture translated into my language was: "Zealous brothers are advertising the lecture of J.R. MILLIONS NOW LIVING MIGHT NOT DIE" ... I felt terribly, this was not mistranslation, it was clear LIE!!!! since in my country most JWs dont speak good english, nobody was bothered ...

  I found courage to ask a brother i knew in local Bethel in service dept.... He just turned red and said: Maybe its a mistake.... I said: No way, you cannot make such mistake the meaning is completely different!!! He just ran away....

  It was a proof to me they just lie if they want and nobody cares... It was beginning of my fade...

  Albert
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  Where did these unoffical beliefs/standards come from?

  by highdose in

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  i've been doing some reasoning about all the jw teachings i've been taught as i grew up.

  one of them was the belief that if you were baptised young that it would be a protection for you.

  i questioned this at the time as i thought that instead it would make you prey to opposition from satan at a young age.

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  Highdose, thats not a belief, its just a trick to get kids involved in this destructive cult when they are powerless to question such decision. If JWs were not baptizing kids, 90% of them would not join as adults.

  Albert
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  Confusion on what to believe, also guilt.

  by izzysma in

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  i was raised a witness up until i was 16, never was baptized, and now that i have my own child now i am having a really hard time with wanting her to know what religion is.

  as i have gotten older, wiser i am doubting the truth even more...actually i never doubted it until just a few years ago.

  being a witness is the only religion i know so i still have that sense of loyalty to it even though it's not what i choose to be.

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  Hi Izzy,

  welcome on the board! You say you dont know what to believe... well...

  Being a witness you learn, there is a simple and clear answer to any question. But the world and life are very complex and complicated. And there are so many questions you never will find an answer to. We must learn to live with it.

  You have choice to live in a "safe" system where you are told what to do, what to watch, what to believe, how to behave, what to eat, what sex to perform.... but you will not be allowed to use your brain on your own (actually you dont have to, we decided everything for you already, and when we change our mind, we will let you know in the WT... )

  Or you can live a real live and look for the answers yourself. This way is not allways easy, but you will enjoy the pleasure of freedom and a right to learn about life and God using your brain.

  Your spirituality is something different from religion. Keep it separate. Work on your spirituality, and teach your kid the same. Religion is here not to save you, neither to be a "Master over your faith". JW are religion that violates and rapes peoples spirituality.

  Albert
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  hi everybody and my story

  by inbetween in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as mentioned in my very first port here, i will now give my story and some thoughts i have so far.. i ve been lurking here for about a month, before i registered.

  well, a few months ago something like that would be unthinkable for me.. i was raised as a jw, and serve currently as an elder in a congregation.

  i have family, also jws.

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  Hi inbetween,

  your story is quite the same as mine. I just was not born in, I joined on my own...

  I very much understand your state of mind ... it took me over 6 years to get to the point where I am today ... I went through hell in these 6 years ... beacouse of fear and guilt... Today my position is clear: I do not consider myself as a JW, but due to the family do not want to DA or be DF. Today my wife knows evrything, she accepted it and is OK.

  I have no problem with JWs, still have some friends in... but knowing they might shun me one day, I stared making new friends and starting new relationships... BTW, you wouldnt believe how many good and nice people are "out there"...

  I joined JWs 18 years ago in search of the "Truth" and after several years found myself stucked in a destructive mindcontroling sect. For years in service I was reasoning with people: If you realize you follow wrong map and go in a wrong direction, would you.... (You know the picture in Live Forever book...) So now I should make the same mistake?

  My point:

  I dont care if Jesus died on a stake or on the cross, I dont care about what Holy spirit really is, (If that was really importatnt, Bible would be more specific about that....) BUT BLOOD??? It is about life or death... Hell, will you really teach your kids to tell doctors in the hospital they want rather die if you yourself know its a lie? Does your conscience allows you teach this your kids? Or when this comes, you will tell them "sweetheart dont do it, I myself dont believe it, I was lying to you all the time...."

  Does your conscience allows you to teach this (blood) people in service and put them in danger? You cannot take this doctrine away, if you recruit somebody to JW, they will have to accept it one day... If somebody you recruited will in the future die becouse of blood ... how will you cope with that?

  My decision (after years of menatal and spiritual strugling) is NO, thats not for me. I started fading, became inactive, and rather risk being DF, but I cannot teach others something I dont believe.

  Welcome here!

  Albert
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  most rude behaviour experienced from elders...

  by Albert Einstein in

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  what was the weirdest and most rude thing you experienced / witnessed from elders?.

  my favourite one is called george.

  he was a po in the cong, where i became an elder (i was young and absolutely unexperienced).

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  What was the weirdest and most rude thing you experienced / witnessed from elders?

  My favourite one is called George. He was a PO in the cong, where I became an elder (I was young and absolutely unexperienced). He was an old dictator-like guy.

  The other day, 60 years old, divorceed, very spiritual and very proud sister came in the KH to George, complaining about a mistake he did (she was right...).

  George didnt know what to say (because she was right) so he looked at her like she was an insane child and said in front of others: "Rita, you know what your real problem is? You need a guy!" Turned away and left...

  Rita complained to a CO, and CO gave to George private counsel, and later told me ... "You have to watch over George, he cannot behave like this..."

  That time I was absolutly confused, today its just funny and ridiculous... I have so many stories about George....

  Albert
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  Time send your posting report....

  by Albert Einstein in

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  end of the month is just over, please send us your posting report for june.. posting posters, please send us an acurate number:.

  how many hours did you spent on jwn.

  how many threads did you start.

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  Oh please Cameo, do not be discouraged over the lack of interest.... you are not posting hear to achieve results ... you are posting out of the love to JWN administrators and also to bear witness .... so when the end comes upon WTBs, no JWs can claim they were not warned in advance and they will justly be destroyed and smashed to pieces...

  Albert
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  Has anyone ever caught you in a lie? Is it that embarrassing?

  by asilentone in

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  tell me about it.

  i would not be surprised if i do not get any answers to my questions on this thread.

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  Couple of days ago:

  I sit at the table with my laptop, loged to JWN, reading your interesting posts.....

  Wife on the sofa asking: "Albert, what are you reading outhere....??????"

  Albert: "Just checking news honey...."

  My son (7) comes to me, looks on the screen, and says: "So why does it say JEHOVAHS????"

  Totally embarasing, cause my wife doesnt like me being here... she says you are to negative ......

  Albert
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  Time send your posting report....

  by Albert Einstein in

  1. jw
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  end of the month is just over, please send us your posting report for june.. posting posters, please send us an acurate number:.

  how many hours did you spent on jwn.

  how many threads did you start.

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  Dear brother Mastodon, your report exceeds national average by 12,396%! Great job you are doing! What an encouragement for other posters! Would you mind to prepare a short presentation to show others how you do it? Especially the number of your return posts is excellent! Here your report is 42,9765% over national average! I believe your presention could help even some unposting future posters, who are just lurking so far...

  Albert
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  Time send your posting report....

  by Albert Einstein in

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  end of the month is just over, please send us your posting report for june.. posting posters, please send us an acurate number:.

  how many hours did you spent on jwn.

  how many threads did you start.

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  Yes, of course, we count anything, even if you sent a blank post... just please stay active poster .... Otherwise JWN secretary will get spanking from circuit JWN overseer...!!!

  Albert